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Hey everyone!
I just wanted to do a video going through what we do know and what we don’t know as far as the potential exploiting that happened during phase 2. I know this has been a huge talking point in the community and I wanted to get my thoughts out in a video.
A link to the first video can be found here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RskNSsi7h_M
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:40 Phase 2 issues summarized
6:10 Alpha 2 is more than bug testing
9:40 Why Leveling Up Via Exploiting is Problematic
14:30 Why I think the punishments are taking so long
15:20 Concerns for bias on certain players
17:05 Why Going Lax on players now will be problematic going forward
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And just as I upload my video, steven says announcements will be tomorrow, lol
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banning people for "exploits" in an alpha is wild and ive actually never heard of it happening before. Wiping their characters sounds more like a reasonable response. But i dont have any dog in the race, im just saying it sounds insane.
I don’t expect “punishments” but we will see
I personally think abusing elevation so a mob pathing is messed up is an exploit, I dont care if you can do it in ALL MMO's…its an exploit.
I don't think anyone is really complaining that the dev team was off. That's disingenuos. What was missing was a swift condemnation, acknowledgement, telling these people to stop. That gives them the ability to say they were warned. There's a bunch of people in their forums trying to talk around it and many people saying its ok. Finding and reporting a bug is good and helps the game, abusing it only helps you not anyone else.
The levelling biz is annoying. There's too many people that rushed and are now bored and just roll lowbies for entertainment. They also aren't testing anything other than mob combat. They are exploiting to advantage versus doing the actual content. These are not the kind of people that I want to game with.
Paying $100 or more to exploit a game that isn’t even done yet is dumb to me.
Patch notes video when.
The idea that continuing to use an exploit is "helping" is terrible for alpha testing. People aren't so stupid that they actually believe this. They're just want the advantage.
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If the game was a full release the punishment for exploiting should be more severe then say an Alpha test.
Everyone who cheated etc –> permanent banned…. that would be a Statement. Nobody want to have such ash…. in the game. Thats my opinion
Absolutely great thumbnail 😂
Those defending the exploits during an alpha are obviously missing the point.
"It's just an alpha, who cares"
Well, what is the point of an alpha? To test things, including leveling speed and economic growth. So how are you going to get reliable data on either of those if people don't stop exploiting, duping and cheating? You don't and therefor, you must eliminate the problem from the equation.
I trust Steven that they're just being extra thorough. He's proven himself reliable in the past. This will be a time to show his true colors.
Since I sent video of this being done to intrepid in sephillion I want to see a list of names 😂😂 cause this particular guild also declared wars on a bunch of people after the exploiting. Your exact scenario.
Perfect take! I think you eased some minds about the exploitation. I will say along with developing the game, developing their punishment and tracking for explotation is just as important. If it takes them a month to get this right and it delays the game a month it will be all for the better.
Jate to be thst guy, but if they don't swing the hammer hard I'm taking a long break following much less playing the game. Might check back in at launch, might not. This is their last chance to show me that this game isn't going to be a clusterfuk of explorers and griefers.
Exploiters already level up others account and tranfer all their gold and items, hope for ashes to track this too and ban the accounts they are transferring their items,
Big dawg!
This gave me flashbacks to the children's book "If you give a mouse a cookie".
This guy knows what he is talking about
I'm pretty sure that Steven and the team know that if the punishment is not severe (meaning bans) but more of a de-leveling kind of punishment then people would just level back to max and do it all over again. Exploiting hurts the games core and economy, basically hurting the experience for others and who knows maybe some parts of the game aren't even tested the way they are supposed to be because of some exploits that exist and actively being abused… I demand bans.
Hats off to you for discovering this advantageous play style. Dissapointed that you didn't cover what the exploit was.
Thank you for your service! What unit were you in?
It is probably quite annoying to you, but it is hilarious seeing your charged shot consistently NOT hit anything on the stairs lol
IMHO! ANY ACCOUNT AFFILIATED WITH SUCH TRANSACTIONS SHOULD BE RESET! 2nd: OFFENSE IS A FULL REFUND OF THE GAME! PERIOD! This would be the best way to keep the community happy.
Their track record is not great. Their solution to the duplicate exploit in p1 was to remove all legendary materials, even from the players that never duped. This shows that they don't track the items, so I doubt this is the reason why its taking so long this time.
Big dawg 🤝
Really big fan of the way you cover content on ashes. Thank you!!
Steven needs to be quiet and this game needs to be in closed development. There way too much drama and negative attention going on.