This is why Ashes of Creation will fail..



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30 thoughts on “This is why Ashes of Creation will fail..”

  1. The significance of combat diminishes when the focus shifts to crafting an immersive game world that truly values and respects players' time. A substantial number of North American players may opt to discontinue their engagement with Black Desert Online . However, those who persist may be exhibiting signs of addiction disorder. BDO does not align with the profile of a healthy game for the average American, as it predominantly caters to a niche audience or individuals open to a pay-to-win model in their pursuit to catch up with others. The BDO gaming model is inherently flawed.

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  2. Honestly yeah. The combat looks terrible. Why does everyone talk about BDO combat being the best and still no one tries to do something similar? It seems like a way to print money if you can have it plus a solid MMO with a large deep world with good group and solo content.

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  3. Hey😂!!! I’m in my 60s n love BDO, I knows others in their 70s, things don’t have to be easy.

    There is no other MMO to beat the action combat BDO has and that guy comparing this to BDO is 🤣, lots of copium.

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  4. The only thing that will kill BDO, is when BDO 2.0 comes out. If they released BDO now with the Crimson Desert aesthetics, with no gender locked classes, a $20 monthly sub fee, and very minimal cash shop; it would kill current BDO as well as most of the other MMOs new and upcoming.

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  5. I completely agree with one concept about ashes of creation. Is that its combat isn’t as good as other games however if you compare it to when it’s first released it’s like night and day. Either way if the combat turns out good then great if not it’s fine. There are a lot of other great games out there .

    Edit: also one thing to note one of the best games in the world Boulders gate 3 is a turn based game. It’s all about how it feels to play it.

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  6. I dont know when the name Ranger became synonymous with taking on animal attributes. as far as i can tell the Ranger class is loosely based off LoTR Aragorn, who was a ranger and didnt seem to have any ability of being able to take on animal attributes. So technically BDOs Ranger seems to have a correct take on what a ranger is as both fight using bow/arrow and a sword, and not whatever this nonsense is.

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  7. I've never really cared about insane combat though. I want a Mmorpg that feels like a Mmorpg. I want guild acitivies, party activities and things I can grind for however long I want without being locked. FFXIV is a great example. I think the combat is dogshit but I still put well over 1000 hours into it because of how well designed everything around combat is. I can't speak for everyone but I can atleast say thats true for me and my mates.

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  8. Idk how anyone could see this and think it rivals BDO combat wise, it looks closer to runescape. I've been waiting for a good MMO that can compete with BDO for a while now but AoC (at least the class models and combat,) looks like it was made in 2007. I understand it is just in alpha still so maybe they'll actually improve it to a point that it's even in the same galaxy as BDO, but for now I don't get the hype.

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  9. To be fair, I think that the game is very ambitious especially on different systems like taxes/player building etc. System/things you can do in the world even the mounts are all great as for the combat, it's nowhere near bdo but it looks good enough to play with. Hopefully there are alot of raids since this looks like a game that would look really cool with.

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  10. I've been following AoC for years at this point and I can say that the combat has come a long way. But it doesn't come even remotely close to competing with BDO. its more comparable to ESO combat imo. which I don't hate btw

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  11. Everyone have their own taste. For me Bdo is very mediocre too. Combat is fun for a bit, but endless grind and being able to lose your gear progress in PvP/pve is such a stupid thing. I do enjoy target mmos more.

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  12. The biggest thing that i see killing this game, is that it’s supposed to be like “a hardcore PvP game” from what I understand.
    I don’t see “Hardcore PvP” MMO’s surviving long term at all.

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  13. The speed of bdos combat isnt what makes it good. The smoothness, graphics, and action style are. Slow it down to .75x and it might even be better. Criticism of AoC combat is fair and i agree, but there adds another level to combat when its slower as more strategy can be employed.

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  14. BDO players scared to walk away from giving PA thousands of dollars. The true copium. Sunk Cost Fallacy at it finest. Criticize everything else up and coming while mmo's with far worse combat still have way more players than BDO.

    I love BDO and if Ashes can do half of what they claim with just average combat. Say goodbye to a shitload of your friends in BDO.

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  15. Tbh the combat doesn't need to be like BDO's. Honestly nothing is wrong with tab target combat. It needs to be done well though, it needs to feel good to watch and play.
    Different combat methods can be done right. BG3 being turned based is a good example. A lot of people are not fans of turn based combat, tried BG3 and actually enjoyed it, and that is because it was something that was actually well. (Outside of BG3 just being a genuinely good game)

    Tab target with hotbarred abilities can be done well, there can be complexities with it. I agree if they just make it 1, 2 ,3, 4 repeat yes that can be boring. But if they make abilities interreact well with each other, changing functions, ect it can be fun.

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  16. Idk mane, even graphicaly ashes of creation looks pretty garbanzo considering its in ue5. Sure some stuff looks really great like the sky stuff,weather and overal rendering in the distance but come on. UE5 can do better, even bdo non-remaster version on max settings looks more graphicaly pleasing

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  17. BDO combat isn't the type of game they are going for so… i wouldn't be expecting that anyway. They are going more for classic wow – wrath of the lich king type where you have to stop and drink mana pots every so often. Slower combat not kill thousands of mobs in a blender type combat 😛 They talked about this in the past. People still compare it to something it will never be regardless 🤦‍♂
    Also another reason most go with tab target is because of desync. Waiting for a global cooldown mixed with slower combat gives time for the server to catch up especially in pvp.

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