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00:01 – Issues
00:20 – Weekend Alpha
02:30 – Pricing Controversy
06:50 – Server Concerns
0810 – Phase 1 Content
11:00 – Phase 2 & 3 Content
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I think most ppl forget they stopped selling alpha for a few months now if they just dropped an Alpha key for like 20-40$ it will be a big middle finger to the ppl who paid 250$ for it soo they have no choice put to sell it at high price and like they them self said don't buy this shit this is not a finish game and they only brought back cuz a lot of ppl wanted access
Jay keep it real and talk about how shariff aaid on stream.dont buy this key. They even said its for a super small minority. You dont mentioned any if that. Thata why i hate this video. You just talk about feelings from people notnthe truth. Your doing a one sided video. Shariff said perfectly who this is for. Yet you dont mention thT at all shame
Its not reaaonabt to criticize monetization when they told you.dont buy this grow up man
I personally believe the price was always irrelevant. People are upset that NOW the fomo is hitting them but where were they 7 months ago? You guys will hate when I tell you how much we paid for the priviledge to test their game before lol
I’ll see you guys at actual release 😅😅😊
I fucking hate them after this
Alpha 2 phase three will (hopefully) have a lot of the issues addressed from phase one and phase two. Also, phase 3 will be persistent. If you REALLY want to pay an extra $20 to weekend test the initial buggy versions of the Alpha 2 then go for it.
So many white knights for this game it's wild.
Marketing BS aside, Alpha 2 was delayed until May 2025. So, we move into year 9 still in Alpha and we'll be lucky to see Beta in year 10. That's the reality of the situation. The game is nowhere near done and there could be several more delays.
wtf is an alpha 2? when does it stop alpha 46? alpha 102? paying $120 to be a tester for a game that will be perpetually in "alpha"
Priciness is effective way to deter trolls and infantile adults-I love it.
Im pretty sure the only reason they priced the keys at 100 was 1. To keep the people who already spent alot of money on alpha 2 keys happy. They spent a sizeable chunk of money and would suck if a few months later its just 20 dollars. And 2. To price out most people who dont want to actually test and think its a early access. Its not a game its a testing run. Plus your paying to potentially help make decisions on the how the game gets built. Its really simple. Dont wanna help test the game dont buy it an wait for release.
If a game is self-funded, it shouldn't charge anything before it actual release. NEVER spend money on pre-purchases.
Anyone "mad" about it are the ones who want to play a game, not be testers. It's not complicated. Don't like it? Go play Pax Dei or TaL. Getting upset because something doesn't mean expectations you set yourself is full Karen ignorance. RE Pricing – it's perfect. It is just enough to weed out the Players, but cheap enough for Testers. Some people are only interested in certain levels of testing/systems. This program gives people options. If they had priced them, let's say at $20. Every single half assed player would buy it and cried when they found out it's a test, not a game. RE # of servers. He literally stated they are more than ready to spin up as many servers as they need based on the number of testers. In fact, he stated they are able to handle hundreds of thousands. Day 1 will be rough in terms of queues. Guess what – that's very much intended. Intrepid is inventing next gen server tech as well as developing a game AND developing tools as a PUBLISHER. They HAVE to server load test first and foremost, including queue times. The first phase is going to be rough. Don't like it? Don't join Phase 1. Lastly – guild size expansion systems will not be in place until much later. You literally can't form a "large" guild. The guild tools won't be around until later either. So a lot of these large, complicated guilds won't be a factor in Phase 1. We'll see them be more of a thing later. Steven stated it as plain and simple as can be – they want Testers, not Players. Testers are not angry.
First of all its an alpha ofc they gotta stress test the servers, performance etc. So ofc there is not gonna be an entire game ready for people in THE ALPHA STAGE OF THE GAME.
Imo the price is a little bit high but I can see it that they didnt want to devalue the other packages that were available before and its to (hopefully) filter tue people that play the alpha to get the best data and results possible.
Idk man I like what they are doing they are taking their time and making sure things actually go relatively smoothly well see if they are able to do that but I like this cautions approach.
$120 for some unfinished ue5 project is hilarious, you gamers really do deserve to be robbed.
The only reason people are angry is because they have to wait to play the game. The Devs are doing literally everything correct in terms of making a game that is an actual finished product. Letting us play the Alpha for a while and having timelines to keep updating and adding onto the game until the majority of the players feel happy then fully releasing to the public. Huge W from Intrepid.
"Uproar"??? haven't heard any of it in my shared AOC communities. With that said, you can't please all people all the time…shrug. $120 seems like a very reasonable price to me. If you don't like it, don't pay to test and wait for the game to go live.
Personally, I think the pricing is very fair. Imo, Alpha testing is going to be going on for at least a year. AoC isn't going to be coming out till around 2030. So, beta probably won't start till around 2028-2029. So, by those calculations, that's around 4 years of Alpha testing. For a total $100-$120, that's around $3/month. Of course, these are just my personal calculations/projections. I could be totally off. But, even if Alpha lasts for just a year, that comes out to $10-$12/month. Nothing punitive, even taking into account that it won't be till phase 3 for persistent access.
Also, this purely optional testing. As I'm sure others have said, by pricing it as they did, it respects those who paid more for the earlier packages. While, at the same time, making sure that the testing isn't easily accessible to those who aren't serious about testing. If you pay a fair amount, it makes you more invested. Make it dirt cheap, or free, and people will usually treat it as such. And, that would not help the development process.
Me eating popcorn watching the usual crowd rage and cry over the new twist in thier panties.
Nom-nom-nom.
LOL this game is sounding more and more like a scam, if don't think so just ask yourself thy are they reselling something that was supposed to be exclusive access to people who funded the game (again btw), "oh they need testers" if they need testers then contract a testing team because the vast majority of people who are going to buy this keys just want to play the game, they are not going to bother if the game is too broken and they are not going to report the bugs.
This is nothing more then another away to milk the community with endless betas and early access (there is no such thing as an open alpha btw), and they still have the audacity to claim the game is self funded, seems to me that this will be the new star citizen.
I feel like they should have given people who had Alpha 2 already A1 access. Like I bought a package a while back with A2 access, and then it went away, and now it's back, but I'd have to pay $120 to access A1, but then people who have bought nothing can ALSO get A1 for $120, or can spend $110 to get A2, which I paid more money years ago for, and all this is they supposedly need "more testers", but if so…why not just give all the EXISTING A2 people A1 access for free to get your more testers from your already loyal fans? Overall, I just don't get it and it seems so weird. Especially for a game whose creator consistently says they have enough money and aren't needing more right now.
Damn people are really desperate for a good MMO… imagine paying that much for testing.. but its their money so who am I to judge.. though be prepared for the worst case scenario like getting scammed.. that said best of luck to yall who funded and have high hopes for this game.
If we look at it in terms of competition between mmorpgs, AoC is at a crazy disadvantage, better mmorpgs will come out in a few years and more modern ones with better combat mechanics etc.
If we look at it in other terms, it will be a niche game, for older casual players, novices in general, no experienced player will play this game.
Great video. I have no idea what proper chockered means.
I think this game as a project bit more than they can chew. And by the time it might come out it'll be old news. Potentinally one more half dead mmo on the wall along with other hundreds.
A little bit to high? They should be paying me to test this game.
I paid £250 about 3 years ago.
I was under the impression that i bought into a persistent A2.
It doesn't make sense to be angry about an alpha unless you're an idiot. Alpha is a test period, not a soft launch, it is not about pleasing its fans, it's about testing the game – which is why it's broken into phases. Seems like a logical and great idea to me. It's not a players right to be disappointed by the alpha, its more intepids right to be disappointed by players entering it, expecting a finished product.
At some point you have to call a spade a spade.
250 dollars? bro you got ripped off lol just buy the released game and stop wining
its disappointing but understandable. i was hoping for a 24/7 test from the start but new server tech so i understand. and phase 2 will probably wipe every 6 weeks for database optimization then it should be mostly stable for no wipes in phase 3.
I'm pretty confident that beta access won't be only paid. They'll need more players, this will be when they start showing the game off. Content creators will be invited, and I'm sure they'll give them giveaway keys.
wow more greedy than star citizen
I think the pricing is fair, I mean it’s going to give you access for years of alpha , the game isn’t coming out until like 2028+ . However I’m disappointed about the testing , all they’ve confirmed is a phase 1 A2 date and calling a spade a spade , it’s A1 spot testing , nothing A2 about it apart from backend networking, the project has barely advanced. Phase 3 won’t happen in may as they’ve stated. IMO with his site they should have NDAed all of A1 and made A2 the initial release rather than stringing people along for years far too early imo, it was a mistake. No one wants to follow open development for a decade, 3-4 years is more reasonable.
Well thats Bad…. i would like to get atleast something out of the 100 bucks…
I mean if its an monthly payment model why u cant atleast 3 month free playtime…
That rly piss me off, i will not play anything untill release…
120$ to be a tester lmao 🤣 can you be more stupid and greedy ill just pay 60 dollars in 2 years and play the full game
Do t mind pricing, if alpha 2 lasts years and years. You'll end up with a persistent alpha test for very cheap monthly average. Also, very small price would allow for bots and a lot of people who want to play and not actually help test just clogging up the works
I'm just done with how long it's taking and how much it costs for testing 😂
5:50 "60 million" …but Steven promised he has fully funded the game himself and every kickstarter and website sale is just extra. Could it be that… that isn't true?
Wow! Such an entitlement driven world we live in. The people pissed are prolly people 25 and younger that don't so shit all week except live off mommy and daddy and all they want is EVERYTHING!! Gimme gimme gimme! I need some more!