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I am desperate for a new MMO without pay to win and I believed what they were promising back in 2020. I bought a package in 2020. It has alpha and beta access and game time and cosmetics. I know there is a chance I won't see any of it. It's a gamble and I might be flushing the money down the toilet. I accept this as a possibility but I wanted to back because I don't think I have played a decent MMO in years. It is a shame they are getting kind of scummy to get more cash in the door.
The only "generous" explanation I can give them is maybe they say they have to sell these keys for more testers because they genuinely do need more testers but don't want to just give keys away that others already bought or hire their own.
Josh Strife Heyes warned us about this like 3-4 years ago so I never got hyped up. We'll see if it becomes a Star Citizen 2.
>You need testers so let us play for free.
uhmmm… server cost?
Yeah, they would've sold alot, alot more if they they sold this and everyone get access to beta further on. And why not even more like cosmetics and stuff. This is so stupid move.
I feel like their was a point in time where people were paid to beta/bug test video games, but I must be imagining things.
I could do a maybe 2-3 hour comprehensive test of target features if they paid me a hundred bucks. You have to be insane to pay them for basically doing a tester job and huffing copium about having impact on the development. Remember the gameplay loop he described!
I remember when, I got paid to test games and yes it was not a lot but paying someone 120 USD to play there dogshit game is crazy.
Dead game
i really like your work, i just thought id say it. theres always a siren singing us to shipwreck, save us
Was never hyped for this~
It was certain it would go down the same path as many bevor them.
Games not every out yet or in the future, but cashing out on literally nothing is the way~
Game "Testers" got paid back in the day, but now u gotta pay to test for them.
if they were in a position to deliver an mmo of any worth moving forward there is no reason whatsoever to charge for Alpha its utterly batshit lol this has been so hyped for years but its just gunna be another garbage game designed to rinse everyone for as much as possible? cool, glad we figured that out finally
Remember guys this isn't Star Citizen.
They have a plan…. that they'll execute.
Probably. Just give it another decade. 🙂
When are people going to get it through their thick skulls that the dream MMO they want simply CANNOT be willed into existence via crowdfunding?? The evidence?? Literally every crowdfunded MMO project. Only a major studio with massive financial resources can make one that will succeed. Was told for years Ashes of Creation was the exception. Lo and behold…….
I really don't understand this drama. I don't care what they charge for alpha,they could charge $50k i am only interested to play the game when it launches. Idiots are too invested in this alpha and i don't understand why, it's not like the ones crying about the price know anything about testing a game.
So this game is coming out in 2030??😂
"you do not understand the scope of what this game is trying to achieve" is the answer I got from one of the aoc simp cult members.
This is supposedly coming from the number #1 guild to a game that doesn't exist.
Shits mad really.
We have to pay to test their games, isn't it normally the other way around ? 🤔
Say what you will about Ashes, but they obviously looked at the numbers, determined what profit they hoped to make (and they will profit at this price point), and used a supply and demand graph to set the price. The fundamental problem is DEMAND. There is a very real demand to spend $100 on a game that literally doesn't exist. That says more about us as consumers than it does about them.
It is either they are greedy af or they have financial problem to complete the game which is very concerning. With business tactic like this.. the developers have no intention to finish the game anytime sooner.. or later.
Dead game
Meanwhile I got asked by a random indie developer to play their game and give early feedback, in return I got the game and future dlc.
What the actual fuck eh? At this point i no longer even want to play. Def would not pay to test. Pay me. But at this point id pay to never hear Ashes of creation again im so burnt on hearing that name. Come back in eight years when its in beta.
Did they really say that they need more testers so they are selling these keys because of it? I don't remember this from the livestream. can someone please point out the part in the livestream when they said this?
EDIT: NWM, found it. yea, they should just have said that they need money.
17:15 it seems that Kira has some issues with Steven Sharif… now I understand the negativity.
Also, that the guy never loses is also BS. He already put several millions into this project (allegedly). So when it fails, he won't be able to sell it for as much what he put in.
But what Kira says is true, just ignore this whole thing and when the game is finished, if it is finished, then we will see what it looks like… but then again, why is he ranting about it for 45 minutes? XD
Sounds like no matter what they did people are going to be mad. They have only themselves to blame for it though.
the whales are coming!!!!! man the cannons and ready the harpoons!!!! 🐋🐋🐋💸💸💸💸🐋🐋🐋🐋
The game industry needs a hard painful crash and it can't come soon enough..
So Ashes of Creation or Star citizen, which gonna came first and when ? .MMO people are so funny LMFAO.
What they’re saying is that they don’t want good testers. They just want cash whales to give them more money.
Remember the time where studios paid people to test their unfinished product? Not the other way around?
New thumbnail pictures needed, I'm actually thinking I've already watched some of your videos due to the repeat old image(s)
If you're a broke boy just say so. See you at launch.
I bought the 250$ pack and haven't regretted it one bit. I paid more for games that I played for some hours and haven't touched anymore since then. Be sure you know what you're paying for. I am totally satisfied with the feeling of being part of something and being invested in AoC. I'm not simping and will be critical of what Intrepid puts out in the future. They are and where very transparent in what they are selling you.
4:00 not only that but they break everything they said even with the "we don't make this for the money" mindset lol.
I didn't care too much about the game ever since they said it would be open PVP and then showed the combat, but this stream was pure circus to watch
bro I stopped watching kira 2 months ago and now he looks like a biker going through a 9 to 5 conversion sequence
Oh god, Just say "Haters gonna hate. Give me money, Fanboys and girls."
That guy is talking too much..
Sorry, who the hell would buy this game's source code? This is either a money pit or a successful game, that's it.
They probably do have QAs for the game, just feels like a cash grab to me. Puts me off even wanting to try the game when it comes out now
lol also sounds like they will sell beta access too.
Was gonna try Ashes but after this i know it's gonna try and rinse me of my cash if i get into it. So i'm happy playing HorizonXI which only costs my time.
Its to expensive, but you are ignoring obvious problems with free keys. If you only have a limited number, people just sign up for free keys willy nilly but might never play.
We need Testers, so Pay us to do free QA Work for us, ludacris idea. How about you Pay people to QA Test your Stuff?
Why launching the game if they can sell alpha 1/2/3 …at those prices😂😂😂
Everything is in 3 because most people wouldn't buy the most expensive product right away but if you introduce them to a cheaper product the' show them a mark up that seems advantageous then they'll probably buy it even if in a vacuum they wouldn't spend this much. And studies proved that it works two times after that you just lose the buyer
They must be running out of money I say. This seems desperate. Essentially you're selling jobs that people have to pay to do and then get fired. Beyond retarded.
fighting against P2W in MMOs costs a lot of money when intrepis studio does it, gamers money kekw
38:00 ashes of creation community is one: payers together
Can’t wait for maybe “founders golden axe 500 dollar transmog” 😂
Who the hell is so dumb to just buy alpha access and not the complete game?? Such a waste on money and time!!
Remember when you can pay extra for early access.
I have Excalibur Prime, and everyone is asking for a price of my Warframe account. XD