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I FORGOT: These Alpha 2 Keys don't give you access when the phases start. They are purposely delayed for the people who spent 250$+ to play EARLIER.
Im somone who really wanted to see this game get made and succeed to the point where i bought a $500 pack a couple years ago.
That pack included all the testing phases AND a bunch of cosmetics AND game time at launch AND premium currency.
I rememeber telling people dont buy just for alpha, alpha is a little bonus, youre paying for cosmetics and game time when the game drops.
Paying $100+ in order to ALPHA TEST a game is absurd and its insulting they would even offer this
Alot of monkeys got offended because their banana smell like shit and instead atleast trying to defend somehow their bananas what they did? started to tell Neeko that this is fine and he just doesn't have 120$. Your game is goin to end just like Russian Empire did.
Paying money to test game for developers xD can you imagine
man u are just a dead streamer and youtuber 😀
Just a quick thing before anyone gets scared. Betas will be on separate servers and alpha 2 servers will carry on through UP UNTIL the release of the game! 🙂
"Subject to change" 🤣
Objecting to paying to test is the wrong view. The objection is "using players to fund a MMO". It's fine to object to that and also to how they have gone about it (communication etc), but should be totally clear. They even spent 20mins asking content creators to emphaize "this is not a completed game, this is not early-access", that you are paying for "play testing", but I didn't see that in the vid.
You show the "no beta" clip, but don't explain that Alpha gives you test access. Test builds will go to beta and eventually beta is released and test stops. Also there will be some NDA testing on Test builds. Could say beta acess is trash since who will actually be playing it (will have seen all the content on Test etc). But not explaining what Alpha gives you and implying no beta is terrible seems wrong.
"you've never seen…" that's because no game has trying to fund like this before. Again can object to how it's being done, but should explain what it is they are saying they are doing (and whether your believe them etc.)
It's 100% a delay and if you ever thought Alpha was less than 3 years then I don't know what to say.
Note I've not bought access, I don't agree with a ton of stuff they are doing, but almost all the hate I see is attacking the wrong thing.
you have access even after the alpha 2.. it will turn into ptr that will stay up until launch.. stuff are coming to ptr first and then beta servers
This is prob the most overhyped most blend generic mmo what a waste of money and dev time
Have you developed a game before? Or do you just pass judgment on things you have no clue about?
If you want a more fleshed-out test, wait for the Beta, the studio doesn't have to pay you shit, you insufferable buffoon; if you don't want to test at this stage, just carry on with your life.
Stop trash-talking about things you know nothing of for content…
Is there even any incentive for them to fully flesh out and release the game at this point? Like surely they are making more money just selling 100$ alpha access.
See you in 6~months when there's Beta wave 3 for 150$
Alpha testers having to pay money is some truly 2024 shit in the gaming industry. AND ITS 100+ oh my.
Its so delusional that there’s less than alpha 1 nodes ( 9 vs 5 ) and the maps is even smaller than it was in alpha 1. 3 years to add 3 classes and update to UE5? Jeeez
Everyone alive today will be long dead before this game is 50% finished.
And one more thing: They have all those classes, systems etc. "planned" but what is the main vision? Where is the prioritization in the last 8years of development?
Ohh i finally can see how average twitch chatter looks like irl! thank you Neeko2lo! Love from Czechia, your reviews were the worst of all on youtube <3 keep up the horrible work
This video is filled with so much wrong information. I get it you want views. But i won't be watching any of your content ever again. Way to spread misinformation. Right up there with Blue Squardron….good job!
Dude is constantly mad that we got exactly what we were told we were getting.
Im amazed how some of the comments, is literally people fuming over the price tag, like they FORCE you to pay them? Just dont buy it lol… There is no NDA, you can literally just watch it from others and see if it's something you want in on, and if you do? Just wait for the release…
7:24 you will be able to mix classes, same as you did in archeage, thats what they mean with so many classes.
Typical Korean game 😆
The keys put you in the test at that phase for the rest of the alpha. they are not just for singular phases. Dont be a clown.
You probably will be right with this like you were with diablo 4 the fanboys will give you a lot of smoke but i guess you re used to it 😂
I'm going to start off my post by saying that people are entitled to feel how they want, about whatever they want. Do you. Having said that, if you're going to speak about someone/something, you should be knowledgeable about what you're saying, at a bare minimum, imo.
Regarding the tax lien, that was initiated in 2021. It's three years later, and Intrepid is still operating. Which should tell you that whatever the underlying issue was, it was resolved. Otherwise, the lien would have turned into a levy, and there would be no more Intrepid. And, the lawsuit that is mentioned in that Reddit post was filed in 2020, and dismissed in 2021. Again, three years ago. I'm not sure how this is supposed to be "evidence" of some type of malfeasance on Steven/Intrepid's part… Seems a bit of a reach, aided by unsubstantiated conjecture.
As for the price of the Alpha keys, I fail to see the issue. This isn't a single player game. This an MMO in development. It takes money to run/maintain servers. Especially when you're talking about opening them to a sizable number of the public. Also, when you consider that people who pledged to the game had to pay for similar access, it would have been a spit in their face if the price was too low. AND, another consideration is…once again…this is NOT a game. Alpha 2 is a TEST. Which means that Intrepid needs people who are serious about testing the game, to push forward with development. If the entry into Alpha was negligible, to free, then people would treat it as such. Negligible. By giving access value, that means that anyone who pays REALLY wants to test, and will take the responsibility seriously, because of the investment. I'm by no means rich, or close to it. $100-$120 is not punitive. Alpha testing is more than likely going to be more than a year, imo. But, even if it was just a year, that's around $10-$12 a month. If that's abhorrent to anyone, just don't buy it. It's not going to hurt you, or the game, if you pass. Life goes on.
I get it that this video was most likely made for clicks/clout. Even with that said, do better. Peace.
Still closer to release than Star Citizen. They could get funding by bigger companies, but they refuse to do that. Steven is afraid that if he gets financial backing by a larger company he'll lose control of his investment. By getting many smaller donations he can stay in control. That has pros and cons, I'm still really excited to see the game. Don't know if Im going to invest in the Alpha. Probably will, but…
Or, hear me out, don't buy it if you aren't testing the game? That is what they are saying and have been saying for a long time.
People are clearly missing what the intent of the first phase was. Its not even for the classes. They are wanting to focus on the base mechanics and functions of the game before they focus on the more detailed aspects of the game.
You talking a lot of shit…
This game is never coming out
Compared to Star Citizen , AoC feels like a summer breeze well this breeze smells a lil bit like poop but Destiny 2 and Blizzard players are used to eating poop and they make a large % of AoC's audience so it's all good my man nothing to worry about . The shit eaters will eat shit , the company barely matters .
Excuse my french , shit eaters 😊
"Man this should tell you how far away from a finished game they are." Dude its an Alpha, usually whenever i get my hands on an alpha the beta or release isnt until on average 2 years later no derp
There is more and more room for those who call this "project" a scam game, to be right, 8 years of making a game that did not exceed its 10-20% of what was promised, apart from these expensive values even for those with purchasing power loud and meaningless, you will pay to test a game for others with no guarantee of a return on that investment. that said, 100% scam
Amen, you hit the nail on the head for everything. The culture around game development has become a toxic consumer last goldsink abusive relationship.
Tester is a legitimate job, but its being turned around into a privilege you should pay 100+€ for. In 10 years people will pay for the privilege to help develop a game and be a "part of production". Its a clownfest thatll stay this way as long as people are gullible and stupid enough to buy into it.
In 2030 simps will pay 250€ for a Silver Tier 5 Limited Beta 2 Phase 5 Wave 2 limited spot weekend test 😂
If you buy access to the Alpha of Ashes of Creation, you should get access for beta as well and get game time at launch. That's how you spark people's interest.
That not paying taxes thing could be pretty signifigant if true. Doesnt seem wise to mess with irs though since skipping on those payments usually leads to much deeper problems in the end. Uncle Sam isnt kidding around when it wants to get the tax it thinks belongs to him.
Steven made his money in MLM multi level marketing. He IS using the same concepts to reach consumers through hype and paid YT creators aka Trolls. Anyway. Put out the game Steven. Seriously, just finally put it out or get out and Shuddup Steven.
DOA, bad graphics and combat 😂
Tell me you didnt understand anything in the stream without telling me you didnt understand anything in the stream.
thank you for saying it game isn't even coming out for another 2-3 yrs why is anyone hyping it.
is not a scam..wtf. Steven responded on reddit. the price is hight to be sure that people gonna buy it if they are serius about testing. And aplha2 gonna last minium a year. that mean 12 13 euro /dollar montly..grow up. Also keeping a server up , gonna cost some money
the amount of copium from the sheep on these comments is hilarious. These fucks are already too deep just like the star citizen idiots
HAHAHAHAH
if the key for the alphas is 120 USD, how much will be the Betas? 1k?
they literally created the alpha of the alpha to delay the real alpha.
No clue how there are so many people defending this in the comments. Yes, no one forces anyone to buy this, but it's fair to call it out for what it is. Just like how we call out crap from other companies.
Seeing these small youtubers try and ragebait for clicks off a game they're going to put thousands of hours into is just sad. You're not gonna make it if this is the level you operate at after 8 years of making videos. What an insane waste of time, lol.
Bravo, Great Video Neeko2lo.
i been worried about ashes for a While, and people really need to open their eyes.
When will all the crybabies understand how an economy works? They put a price on a product that has a value: play the game or test it, whatever, in advance. If people value that product, they will pay. If people dont value, they move on and go into something else. Simple as that! Stop complaining about it, one way or the other!
Wow you took the tax bait too… and didn’t even bother looking into it yourself… that’s in such bad faith… and cringe af